Alex Neil, and SNP Member of the Scottish parliament (MSP) for central Scotland, asked Donald Dewar (London controlled Labour minister) what progress had been made in reducing pensioner poverty since July 1999.

Dewars list was greeted with shouts of "shame" and "tell it to our faces" from the public galleries FULL OF SENIOR CITIZENS.

Alex Neil went on to ask : "Does the First Minister not find it shameful that now we have got two Labour Governments, one here and one in Westminster, our pensioners are the third poorest in Europe.

NO ANSWER FROM LABOUR FROM EITHER OF THEIR TWO GOVERNMENTS......